Both Averill and Bayar were like actors speaking lines for their audience and not to each other.
As George Bush's infamous for once saying by mistake, he said, "Mother Nature is a terrorist. " So it was with Katrina - the devastation of it, when you think of bombs being dropped on people and then you think that a hurricane could come through and do that, the same amount of damage, it was a wake-up call in a lot of ways.